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PerfectMoney - dziwny email na ich temat
« dnia: Czerwiec 21, 2009, 11:28:15 am »
Ostatnio na różnych forach internetowych aż huczy o PM, żadne kantory nie chcą wymieniać pieniędzy itp.
Dzisiaj otrzymałem e-maila od "theperfectmoney.runaway3@gmail.com" :


"A short message about the Perfectmoney situation:

We informed you some days ago about the real face of PERFECTMONEY: An international scam, organized around around a few sites (media, hosting, hyip, exchangers), run by international scammers based in Russia. Today the situation is clear: NOBODY wants Perfectmoney anymore. Most exchangers do not accept Perfectmoney now, or charge very high fees. It means that if you have, now, some Perfectmoney yet, try to exchange or sell it as soon as possible, even with a high rate, as it will be soon completely impossible! The last exchangers that accept Perfectmoney are waiting their payments since a few WEEKS now, and will more than probably completely stop accepting this dead e-currency very quickly.

Remember e-gold! Most of us have money in our e-gold account: NICE DIGITS ON A SCREEN, but for sure not usable money!


FACT: The Hellenic bank in Cyprus is about to close the Perfectmoney account (CY02005002400002400781226901). That will be the 4th bank that kicks the ass of these scammers! This should be a good reason for Perfectmoney to decide to terminate their business and leave the building.


Perfectmoney continues to announce some "new features", clearly the last attempts to get money before the runaway. In the same time, Perfectmoney is trying to eliminate his major competitors on the e-currency market: The 3 last months, Libertyreserve was attacked by DOS on a regular basis and every week or so their website came unavailable. Since 4 days now, Ecumoney is the target of the DOS attacks of perfectmoney. The perfectmoney scammers probably imagine that by making their competitors unavailable, users can not exchange their perfectmoney for other e-currencies.

E-currency was always a very special world, but it is the first time that such methods are used in this market, at such a scale. But as it is also the first time that the scammers have a NAME (Privet, Maxim Igorevitch Sviridov! You are of course not the top boss of this scam, but maybe you can get in trouble soon too. Alexander, privet too, you also are well known. Etc.), an ADDRESS (Number 1 Avenue Lenin in Moscow, offices 109 and 110), there will be probably consequences for these scammers of their criminal acts. To help people recover their perfectmoney we will publish some interesting photos very soon on a nice blog. Photos, with passport copies, addresses, and FACTS. Scammers, for this time, are identified and will face the consequences of their acts.

So guys, if you have still not wiped your perfectmoney account, don't wait. Or you will be only one of the victims of this e-currency scam.

Good luck!




For those of you who just subscribed, here is the content of our last information mail about perfectmoney:

Some fact about PERFECT MONEY:

Since 2 weeks selling your perfectmoney is very hard: Not only exchangers rates have dramatically increased but many exchangers STOPPED accepting Perfectmoney.

An excellent summary on the excellent TALKGOLD.COM
 
forum, the Bible of e-currency users:
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3130459&postcount=1
 

"Help: Almost all perfectmoney exchangers stopped accepting perfectmoney!!"

Why this situation? Because the real face of Perfect Money begins to be shown: The face of an international group of scammers who build a big network of sites around their e-currency: Media (ecommerce-journal), hosting company (Dragonara), hyip (Stoic Capital was their last closed scam, others are still online like Panamoney,), exchangers (trainex who operates in the same office than Perfect Money), etc etc

Again from Talkgold:
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r251873-.html
 

"HUGE SCAMMERS NETWORK REVEALED - ecommerce journal + Panamoney + PM + Others "


All this would not be at first bad if the methods used were honest. It is really not the case:

Using hyip (SCAMS) to promote his own e-currency is a new method in the long story of e-currencies, none did it before Perfect money! Using a media to not only PROMOTE perfect money but also violently attack other e-currencies, is also new. Using his own hosting company to operate DDOS attacks about the 2 main competitors of Perfect money (Libertyreserve and Ecumoney) is also a new method of marketing largely used by Perfectmoney!

But where is Perfectmoney located?

Perfectmoney advertises themselves as "Swiss company". It is in fact registered in Panama, with a Panama financial license, a package that any scammer can get for about $2000 on any "offshore services reseller" in 2 weeks. But this Panama location is a fake: Perfectmoney sends and receive payments using a "Perfect Money Financial Corporation" bank account in Cyprus, in the "Hellenic bank" (Account CY02005002400002400781226901)

"Perfect Money Financial Corporation" is a Moscow (Russia) registered company, legally located in Moscow, Avenue Lenin number 1, office 309.

Interesting to note that at the same address operates an e-currency exchanger, TRAINEX.RU
 
. Trainex of course never admitted being Perfect Money themselves. Why?

Perfect Money was using some months earlier a bank account in LAIKI bank in Cyprus. Laiki bank decided to terminate the Perfectmoney account after the bank understood that Perfectmoney is managed by a team of international scammers. Currently, the Hellenic bank is also investigating Perfectmoney and the closure of their bank account is a matter of days. And with the current situation (Nobody wants to buy your perfectmoney), sure that the account closure will mean the end of perfect money, scammers will run away with the funds they have already cashed out.

Perfect money uses another company to launder their funds:
Knights Finance Corporation, a Panama company (again!) using a bank account in... Cyprus of course, guess where? In the Hellenic bank, Account CY14005002400002400781239101!


So, Perfectmoney is finally a Moscow based company (There are at least real guys there, some photos will soon be published in a blog especially opened for this), using a few offshore companies to launder money coming from their own HYIPs, organizing DDOS attacks through Dragonara against their competitors.

Exchangers, who have often access to inside information, understood the problem and decided to increase their fees and even for many of them, to stop accepting perfectmoney. The e-gold debacle began like this, and finally nobody can sell e-gold. The difference with e-gold is that e-gold was/is run by honest people who do not hide, as perfectmoney is run by scammers who hide! We have the identities of the guys behind perfect money and are ready to publish them with a bunch of photos, AS SOON AS PERFECTMONEY WILL HAVE DECIDED TO RUN AWAY! Considering to the current situation that should be very soon: Nobody wants perfectmoney anymore, so the logical reaction of the scammers will be to say "Ok, let's stop NOW and disappear with what we could take til now".

Those who sold e-gold at 5% fee found it very expensive. Today they are very happy ot have got rid of their gold!

I personally had about 1500 bucks in Perfectmoney and got VERY VEY HAPPY to have sold it at 10% some days ago, as the exchanger stopped accepting perfectmoney 2 days after he processed my payment! That is why even at 10 or 15% today, it is highly recommended to get rid of this scam e-currency as soon as possible.

Currently the perfect money scammers announce "new services" like for example an SMS funding option  - very expensive but the point isn't here. They just want to attract the last bucks before the runaway. It is more than probable that ecommerce-journal publishes very soon an article against other e-currencies, as usually between 2 flashing banners of perfectmoney! Perfectmoney will probably post one or two more messages on their website at the Glory of their system, sure.

They are just acting like all HYIP do before the runaway.

Good luck in getting your PM sold during you can."


Co sądzicie na ten temat? Dlaczego kantory nie chcą wymieniać PM i czy może się to okazać wielkim oszustwem ?

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« Odpowiedź #1 dnia: Czerwiec 21, 2009, 01:28:40 pm »
Ktoś pisze z sensem, widać że wie o czym mówi. Kantory zazwyczaj nie chcą wymieniać e-currency wtedy, kiedy nie są w stanie sprzedać tego co skupią, jezeli naprawde czeka sie kilka tygodni na bankową platnosc ze strony PM, to dobrze o nich nie swiadczy. Moim zdaniem koniec moze byc jednak inny, po prostu znajda sobie inny bank gdzie beda prac swoje pieniadze, a serwis bedzie istnial do czasu, az rusza ich odpowiednie agencje rządowe.
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« Odpowiedź #2 dnia: Czerwiec 21, 2009, 01:32:51 pm »
Ja właśnie całą kasę już przelewam do HYIPów (tak, żeby wypłaty były do LR), albo staram się wyprowadzić ją z PM na LR... Jeszcze w sumie zostało mi tylko 15$ które dostanę z Infinitiva na PM mam nadzieję, że tą kasę też mi się uda jeszcze jakoś wyprowadzić od nich.

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« Odpowiedź #3 dnia: Czerwiec 21, 2009, 01:48:42 pm »
To dobry pomysl aby wplacic do hyipa, ale najlepiej do takiego, ktorego bedzie stac na strate zwiazana z zamiana depozytu z PM na LR, w razie gdyby PM upadl. Moze Sportarbs?
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« Odpowiedź #4 dnia: Czerwiec 21, 2009, 01:50:49 pm »
To dobry pomysl aby wplacic do hyipa, ale najlepiej do takiego, ktorego bedzie stac na strate zwiazana z zamiana depozytu z PM na LR, w razie gdyby PM upadl. Moze Sportarbs?

Nie wiem dlaczego, ale nie mam zaufania do tego Sportarbs... Jakoś nie jestem do nich przekonany
Inwestuje główne w Dividend-Center (pisałem już na form o tym) i jestem bardzo zadowolony z tych inwestycji...

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« Odpowiedź #5 dnia: Lipiec 22, 2009, 12:39:03 pm »
Kolejny e-mail, który dostałem na skrzynkę e-mail.
Przyszedł on z: allaboutperfectmoney@gmail.com

"Dear Perfectmoney users,

You have probably receive a great email from Perfect(scam)money yesterday about new features of their service. The situation is a bit different:

One month ago, Perfectmoney hidden facts were revealed on some websites and by mailing: Perfectmoney is a Russian company based in Moscow, using bank accounts in Cyprus. After this was revealed, Perfectmoney in emergency closed their Moscow office, to move to another place (in Moscow too, your address will soon be public with photos of their staff). In the same time, the international financial authorities who were already investigating Perfectmoney, asked the Central Bank of Cyprus to take the appropriate measures against Perfectmoney, for money laundering activities on a large scale.

Since about one month, there is a real rush to sell Perfectmoney and exchangers who still accept it, get flooded by perfectmoney. People understand that Perfectmoney is a scam and want naturally get rid of this e-currency. Many exchangers among the biggest and most respected ones, now do not accept Perfectmoney anymore.
On the Client side, a lot of perfectmoney users found their account blocked just because they asked questions about the honesty of perfectmoney. And their money took wings!

Perfectmoney is a well done international scam: At least 8 companies have been created in various countries. Their small problem is that banks are not that stupid and most banks declined to open accounts for these companies; the only banks that accepted them were in Cyprus, Laiki bank and Hellenic bank. Two banks well known for their connections with the Russian mafia and the money launering activities. Anyway as told above this is about to change as the Central Bank of Cyprus began to worry about this.

When a user wants to BUY perfectmoney (not sure that in these days, some people want to buy, anyway!), they have to send their wire to ...Not Perfect Money but another company, named "STAFFSERVICE LTD", and registered at the same place that for example DRAGONARA, the webhosting company that offers protection against DDOS attacks, and that LAUNCHES DDOS ATTACKS against Perfectmoney competitors!

STAFFSERVICE LTD, Geneva Place, Waterfront Drive, Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands
Bank: MARFIN POPULAR BANK PUBLIC CO LTD, LIMASSOL, CYPRUS
SWIFT (BIC): LIKICY2N120
USD ACCOUNT NUMBER: 179-32-222360
IBAN NUMBER : CY78003001790000017932222360
EUR ACCOUNT NUMBER: 179-11-109395
IBAN NUMBER : CY48003001790000017911109395

Perfectmoney also uses another laundering company, this time registered in Panama but with bank accounts still in Cyprus, Knights Finance Corporation, (Bank account at Hellenic bank, number CY14005002400002400781239101!

When people SELL perfectmoney directly they receive wires either from Perfectmoney Finance corp in Moscow (Bank account always in Cyprus of course).


Perfectmoney is, so, proudly announcing that they will open an office, and even published a photo of a nice girl opening the door of "Perfectmoney office" in Panama. We can read on their website "our office in Panama opens its doors to all visitors". Great but they do not publish the address! Anyway opening an office in a business center in Panama costs the big $500/month, a small amount that Perfectmoney can of course pay, using their clients money!
Perfectmoney announced also the "prepaid cards", physical cards that can be loaded into a perfectmoney account. A DESPERATE ATTEMPTS to stop the RUSH to sell perfectmoney since one month!

Last month, a raid was launched by Moscow police against Perfectmoney office in Moscow, and a few people were arrested, computers and backup CDs were taken. In Panama, the government will revoke the financial license of Perfectmoney; in Cyprus, the banks will close Perfectmoney accounts. All this makes sure that perfectmoney will not finish the year, and their desperate attempts to launch new services is just the final rush before the running: Like HYIP who offer special profit rates a few weeks or months before running away!

Oh, by the way, Perfectmoney managers ALSO runs HYIPs, so they know the howto to defraud the largest quantity of people!

A good way to see in live the rush to SELL perfectmoney is to check the public balances of some exchangers that are still accepting perfectmoney! Just look as the perfectmoney balance in INCREASING as people SELL their perfectmoney to exchangers, day after day. E-gold some years ago let millions of victims as they were shutdown without real warning. For perfectmoney we are lucky as ALL FLAGS ARE RED since a few months and it is time, NOW, to quickly get rid of perfectmoney before they decide to run away.

One inside information we have (Yes, one Moscow guy talks with us a lot...) is that Perfectmoney guys are a bit afraid to disappear, as we have their REAL ID, photos, addresses etc... For sure the day they will run away, all will be published on various boards. The tracking will be interesting to observe!

Anyway it is time, NOW, to sell QUICKLY the last perfectmoney we can have, so we won't cry when these scammers will have disappeared with the last money!

Good luck!"

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« Odpowiedź #6 dnia: Lipiec 24, 2009, 12:16:06 am »
Trochę niesamowity wydaje mi się ten post, ale wszystko jest możliwe, oj jeśli to prawda to będą piękne jaja...

Zresztą nie da się dokonać transakcji obecnie hyip-PM

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« Odpowiedź #7 dnia: Sierpień 04, 2009, 09:23:39 pm »
Chyba ciąg dalszy problemu PM a może raczej depozytariuszy którzy zareagowali na taką oto korespondencję:
Holder Account at Perfect Money     

Dear Member,

We have reason to believe that your account was accessed by a third party. Because protecting the security of your account is our primary concern, we have limited access to sensitive Perfect Money account features. We understand that this may be an inconvenience but please understand that this temporary limitation is for your protection.

   
How can I restore my Perfect Money account access?    

Click the link below for stay up to date and confirm your Perfect Money account information, otherwise your Perfect Money access will remain restricted:

http://perfectmoney.com/login.html

Moje pytanie skierowane do PM i odpowiedź :

Monday, August 3, 2009, 9:27:50 PM, you wrote:

> Is the query below comes from you?

We never ask our customers to confirm anything, those are tricks of
the swindlers. Please always check for the green bar (details here:
https://perfectmoney.com/login.html). And please retell this
information to all your friends.

Pozdrawiam - trybiko
Inwestuj tylko tyle ile możesz stracić.
Zawsze możesz trafić na :bullshit

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« Odpowiedź #8 dnia: Październik 17, 2009, 06:39:32 pm »
Ja nigdy nie miałem jak dotąd problemów z Perfect Money, wręcz większość środków trzymam na nim. Z tego co ostatnio czytałem są podzielne opinie na temat PM. Czy ktoś wyjaśni o co tak naprawdę chodzi.